It's one thing to enjoy jerking off...and jacking off a lot. But lately it seems that there are too many creeps spying on neighbors, teens, Facebook pages and asking what we think about them. I think you are creeps and assholes, enjoy your stroking but stop spying on innocent people. It's criminal. Your neighbor isn't a slut, you are just pathetic.

I wholeheartedly agree.

I agree. There is enough porn material on the web to cover every interest or fetish out there without having to rip photos off Facebook or similar places.

Firstly one must differentiate the line between 'fantasy' and 'reality'. If I were to make a statement that 'my neighbour is a slut' only I know if that is true or not. You do not know my motives for stating this opinion.

You seem a little confused and that's not a criticism of your position, it's understandable. Freedom of expression in the digital age is confusing many people, including law-makers.

Think of a forum you have joined as a bar you have walked into, or a street corner, or a train station. You've started chatting to someone and they've said: "Look at that slut over there leaning on the pool table", or "I tell you what buddy, that girl over there has got nothing on my neighbour, she's a total milf slut". Now at this point you have a choice; you can laugh, walk away, or carry on talking.

I think what is concerning you is that you cannot see, or internalize visual clues via The Internet. Not everyone who comments on their 'slutty neighbour' is a lunatic in a trench coat.

You have a very narrow view of black and white and right and wrong I'd suggest.

I look at a lot of women and I do it so that I'm not noticed or make them uncomfortable. I often call them "sluts" or "whores" but never to their face or anyone other than my jacking buddies. I would never harm them, but yes I do fantacise about fucking them. I don't thing that makes me a creep.

With regard to what brings sexual arousal, it is easy to label those who have a different interest a "creep".

As a person aroused by legal teeny bikini images, I find it amusing that other jackinchat members who enjoy rape fantasies, scat porn, animal porn, snuff porn, gay porn, anal porn, bukkake, etc., would consider my interest "creepy". Is it fair for a guy turned on my gagging and anal raping women to call a guy who likes looking at cute girls in bikinis a "creep", or visa versa?

We all have our quirks. Sites like JC are mostly "live and let live". If you find the content of JC offensive, feel free to seek your arousal elsewhere. The net is a big place, and surely you can find a place that is a good fit for you and your interests. It is a bit rude however to expect other JC users to adapt to your particular version of creepiness....the only exception of course is if you own the site. That person makes the rules.

I think the original poster's point is calling girls sluts and ogling girls minding their own business in their daily lives is also creepy and a poor things to do. Don't assume that he is being contradictory. If however, one thinks that ogling Facebook photos is creepy but women is not , then they must examine why they thing this--I would submit it may be because it is too close to home for them. But a very valid distinction between ogling women in daily lives as opposed to what the poster describes is that there is no broad dissemination of the photographs--it goes no further than whoever is in earshot...that point should not be outlooked. This is why rigid principles of what is right and wrong cannot be applied to the Internet , the massive scale of accessibility of the content transforms the issue into one that is more complex.

This is a fascinating discussion to me. My sister is an evangelical christian who believes mastubation is wrong and people who do it are creeps and perverts. I am guessing she would like to see sites like this banned? This thread could easily be turned into a fight. I think we should be very careful of who and how we label others.

You're a lousy hypocrite. I'm not even 2 pages into your 28 pages of posts and you're clearly commenting on the threads you're harping against (where unsuspecting women are posted).

Also, judging by your post history, I could easily call you a creep, but I believe in "live and let live". I sort of thought that this board was pretty liberal in that aspect. Guess not.

go ahead fight. Go masturbate, but posting pics of barley legal teens, mostly found online or Facebook is creepy.

I'm glad you can read them, we all have fantasies but none have pictures of innocent people being dragged into my or your stroke.

I am surprised at the email I hqve received on this site...nobody disagreed.
Live and let live is not always the right thing. It's the lazy cowardly thing.

Enjoy your stroke. Masterbation is not about this.

Father Mike,

Your Gospel is not welcum here.

If you don't like what a poster posts, look elsewhere. If you don't like the site overall, there are many others.

We don't really care what you define "creep" to be. We all have our own definitions.

Oh come on, all are welcum in the church of cum. I think Father Mike is projecting his own frustrations and needs a hug.

It's not the people here who post in an open frank forum who worry me, it's those that don't.

Presumably it would only be welcome if it happened to conform to your views. Not a good enough reason to stop anyone from stating their own side of things.

Personally, I do feel a bit uncomfortable with comments made about people found on Facebook, Twitter and such places, as they aren't usually there to be considered in a sexual fashion, and should at least be shown a bit of respect, not treated as objects, whereas celebrities, models and suchlike who do promote themselves at least partly in a sexual manner are a more appropriate target. However, I would not not consider preventing anyone from expressing their own viewpoint, whether I agree with it or not, and expect the same tolerance in return.

In the end, it is the broad range of differences that has made this site so interesting, and it would be a sad loss if it were reduced to just what some of us consider acceptable.

I am here just to read the comments. This topic won't end well.