Just from being on this site ive realised that wanking and chatting to other guys is going to become the social norm, especially for us older blokes, we cant have sex with young supermodels but can follow their private lives on instagram, share their facebook and twitter pics and chat with fellow admirers of beauty every day and evening as we relaxingly pleasure ourselves

It becomes the new social life " would you like to come over and wank to girls this evening?"

I don't know. What I do know is that it feels awesome and I'm never going to stop doing it.

There is still a huge stigma attached to the idea of guys jacking off. There's still some religious issues for some people, and among those who don't deal with the religious aspects, there's a larger sense that if you jack off, it's because you can't get a girl. Really, I don't get it. I have no problem discussing my masturbation interests, especially with my select group of female friends, for whom this stigma does not exist.

In fact, one of the girls in the group just turned 50 and she said she was always so horny as she got older. The other three women in the group simply and matter-of-factly suggested masturbating -- "Fingering yourself doesn't work for you?" one asked -- and they talked about setting the right mood and how a warm bath helps them. They were trading techniques, right there with me at the bar table. Then they looked at me and asked. teasingly, "Is this doing anything for you?" I admitted that I would be stroking to it when I got home that evening. I got a few snickers.

I mentioned my friend's age here, because it was a birthday party. She's my fuckbuddy, so I had no problem giving her a very expensive rabbit-style vibrator. It fit with our relationship. She blushed, but the other three girls just said, "Oh, yeah ... that'll get you there!" and high-fived me for being so open and knowledgable. "We all masturbate," I told her. "So you might as well do it right." The birthday girl asked me out loud how often I masturbate. She knew the answer, because we've made pillowtalk about this before, but I'm not shy about my interests, "As often as I can," I told her, then I whispered suggestively, "And I think about you." The other three girls hugged me and applauded that I acknowledged I jerked off. The hugging struck me as odd, as if I had just confessed I was an alcoholic or something, but I told them I would think about them in a group in my bed when I jacked off later. (I figured that was the right move, because they didn't know the birthday girl and I had been lovers, and I didn't want to tip them off. Even so, I was hoping the vibrator would open up the conversation. I would love to tell them that Kim and I have fucked from time to time, but she wants to keep that private, between us, for fear that it might change the group dynamic if it were known.)

So, yes, given that hug of approval, even among the most enlightened of people, it's evidence there's still some unspoken sense that masturbating is somehow a badge of dishonor.

My first wife regarded male masturbation as something done by sex-starved teenagers looking at smutty magazines. She was not in any sense prudish, but simply thought it should be dropped by guys in a regular sexual relationship.

I don't have much to add to the conversation, except to say there are some excellent, intelligent points made here, thanks all for sharing!

FLscribe your story was so hot!

I think the stigma has significantly increased due to the rise in popularity of the anti-masturbation and porn movement called NOFAP.

Religion is a tool for controlling society. Religion's first priority is to control sex. Is that a coincidence?
Also, masturbation seems to contradict the image of the strong winning and self controlled male. Masturbating is for the weak-minded, so you hide it so as not to belong to the under-caste of failure.
I think that the internet is fast reversing this image. As with gay rights, the metoo movement etc. But don't be surprised if there is also a conservative backlash. Look at the discussion about limiting abortions, look at a "grab them by the pussy" president etc. Sexual liberation of all sorts depends upon the creation of a safe and respectful environment for all. Otherwise you always have exclusions and secrecy. And this only means oppression and inhibition.